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European Union launches investigation of USA Online Gambling Laws
Posted by: yorktown (Moderator)
Date: March 11, 2008 03:44PM

Reprinted courtesy of MSN

European Union launches investigation into US Internet gambling laws

10/03/2008 2:09:00 PM

BRUSSELS, Belgium - The European Union launched an investigation Monday into U.S. laws on Internet gambling, after European betting companies complained that Washington's actions against them were infringing world trade rules.

The investigation could lead the 27-nation EU to file a complaint at the World Trade Organization in the latest international tussle over a growing business worth more than US$15.5 billion a year.

"The U.S. has the right to address legitimate public policy concerns relating to Internet gambling, but discrimination against EU companies cannot be part of the policy mix," said EU Trade Commissioner Peter Mandelson. He said he hoped the issue could be resolved amicably.

European companies claim a U.S. ban that forced them out of the lucrative American market discriminates against them in violation of WTO rules, while permitting domestic gambling companies, particularly those offering betting on horse races, to flourish.

In 2006, the WTO had ruled against a U.S. ban that stops American banks and credit card companies from processing payments to online gambling businesses outside the country.

Washington responded by doing a deal with the EU, Japan, Canada and others in December to allow it to effectively opt out of WTO rules on gambling in return for offering them compensation in other areas.

Meanwhile, European gambling companies were forced out of the U.S. market by President Bush's October 2006 ban on transferring payments.

The companies complain that, before that ban, they had the right to operate under international trade laws, and that therefore ongoing U.S. Justice Department investigations into their previous activities in the U.S. violate WTO rules.

The Remote Gambling Association, which represents several European gambling companies, says the U.S. action is hurting their revenues and stock value as well as making them run the risk of substantial fines. It welcomed the EU's decision to act on its complaint.

"We cannot simply sit on the sidelines and watch while our members, who are already badly bruised by unlawful U.S. acts, suffer the double whammy of being prosecuted for activities whilst U.S. industry is not," said Clive Hawkswood, chief executive of the London-based RGA. "By any analysis, the U.S. policy is fundamentally unfair, and we are delighted that the commission shares our concern."

The U.S. underscored its battle against the industry when it arrested two British Internet gambling executives who were travelling through the United States in 2006.

The 2006 WTO ruling found the U.S. had the right to prevent offshore betting as a means of protecting public order and public morals. But it said Washington was breaking trade law by targeting online gambling without equal application of the rules to American operators offering remote betting on horse and dog racing.

In December, the WTO awarded Antigua and Barbuda the right to impose $21 million a year in sanctions on the United States in retaliation for the restrictions on online betting, but the sum was a fraction of the $3.4 billion sought by the Caribbean nation.

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Re: European Union launches investigation of USA Online Gambling Laws
Posted by: JerryG (---.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net)
Date: March 12, 2008 11:42AM

Did it really force them out of anything? I have no problems making a deposit. As far as I can see, all that this "ban" accomplished was to put a law on the books that enforced what had already been done voluntarily for half a decade. It changed nothing except for those who were publicly traded, and they weren't really hurt since it was their shareholders that absorbed the blow.

And I really don't understand what some of these guys are thinking. It seems that some places mostly just want the US to legalize net gambling. What? Why would they want to do that? Do they really think that they can compete with Harrahs, Google, or even Pogo for that matter, should online gambling be legalized in the US? Only an insanely deluded person would believe this. No rat hole casino on an island in the Caribbean can stand up to a major brand under those conditions. They would be over and forgotten before they knew what hit them. Seeking legalized online gambling in the US should be the last item on their agenda,at least if they expect to stay in business.


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Re: European Union launches investigation of USA Online Gambling Laws
Posted by: Mcluhan (207.200.138.---)
Date: March 12, 2008 06:19PM

More excellent words of wisdom...

You can, as the saying goes, 'Take THAT to the bank...'

Re: European Union launches investigation of USA Online Gambling Laws
Posted by: AndySS2 (201.200.64.---)
Date: March 13, 2008 04:35PM

What I noticed happened is that some online gaming ops got stronger when the UIGEA went through. Some exited the market and that cause a vacuum that others filled.

It is notable problems these days for some of the companies to get uncoded cc accounts and maintaing pament options. Even Bodog had issues with that in Sept. for start of football season. That is the small effect that the UIGEA had. Well, along with that it furthered the business of many illicit operators.

I believe that a legalized US makret would be a huge boost for those that have run clean ops. and have no criminal past. It would raise the barrier of entry for sure, but it would definetl be for the better as a whole.

Pogo (EA), Harrahs and so on, they would go on a buing round if gaming becomes legal. I have meet with represants of the big gaming companies when they have studied the market. If it becomes legal, then there are money to be made, and quite a bit of it also.

I, for one, am for a legislative move in US that would help the industry to reach new levels for the benefit of players and companies a like - and once and for all weed out the bad elements from the industry.


Re: European Union launches investigation of USA Online Gambling Laws
Posted by: yorktown (Moderator)
Date: March 14, 2008 03:33PM

The real reason why they are doing this.....

More concessions from the USA down the road.

The EU got Gatt Treaty issues in their favor and a slew of other items from conceding on the World Trade Organization case in January.

Its the same old politics, but at a different angle:

The cigarette companies had their butts handed to them in the 90's when politicians in the USA went after them. Concessions of $ Millions took place. Politicians made serious money in their pockets. So the politicians went after it with fervor.

Microsoft paid $ millions to the US Gov't to get off their backs. Europe went after Microsoft too, and Microsoft paid $ millions there.

Europe is doing the same as they did to Microsoft, but this time to the USA. Now, the USA is getting its butt handed to itself. The USA will have to concede on more issues to get the EU off their backs.

....Add to this the news this week: Banks came out saying 'not feasible' to UIGEA (what I call the Vowel Law :-))

... and our good friend in New York State, former Governor, Mr. Elliot Spitzer, resigned in disgrace. (This is the guy that went after Paypal in 2002 for online gambling payment processing and basically put our entire industry in a fiscal crisis overnight).

All in all....I say this was a good week.

This industry is filled with ups and downs. This week was clearly an up!







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