first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Andrija (---.verat.net)
Date: August 26, 2002 05:23PM

Hi,

I am doing a deal with playanddeal.com, and my casino should be up 15.septembar.

I have about $6000 for marketing for first three month ($2000 for evey month), and i am interested how much visitors should i "buy" for that period?
is 2000-3000 visitors/month enought for ROI after 3 months?
do you have any suggestions where to market, maybe some search engines like overture.com?

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: WiseUp Adrija (212.131.224.---)
Date: August 26, 2002 06:13PM

Why would you spend $6,000 promoting PlayandDeal.com, a site that doesn't even pay? Look around this board a little more, you'll see you've definitely picked the wrong place to join with.

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 26, 2002 11:24PM

Andrija, This moron is the same joker who claims her and her "hubby" have lost money with the "free" casino sites. Again, she offers no supporting evidence whatsoever. Too bad there's no way the webmaster can prevent idiots like this from posting their garbage, but I guess that's one of the prices of free speech. Go ahead and look around this board like she encourages you to do. You won't find any claims besides her obviously false ones about Play And Deal being unreliable or dishonest. Check the IP of the poster, and if it's 212.131.224.--- read it if you want to laugh at the insane rantings of a lunatic, but don't take it seriously.

Regarding your original post, Overture and Google AdWords (original program - not pay-per-click) are your best bets. Kanoodle, eSpotting (focuses on the U.K.), and Mamma are also other good pay-per-click seach engines. Look for keywords with decent traffic that are not bidded through the roof. For example, "online blackjack" or "internet slots", etc. instead of "online casino", "gambling", etc. so you can achieve higher rankings with a much more reasonable pay-per-click cost.

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: The Banker (205.251.90.---)
Date: August 28, 2002 02:15PM

Hello Andrija

Do you require guarenteed processing of all your US players credit cards that have to be coded (7995)

You can see details by visting my posting on thos forum under
US Credit Cards...Processing Guarenteed.

The Banker

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: CasinoMutter (---.sin.itesm.mx)
Date: September 2, 2002 04:25PM

Actually "WiseUp" is correct. Play and Deal is one of the biggest scams for 2002. Windows Casino spinoff made BeTheDealer.com and PlayAndDeal.com is an affiliate, nothing more, to BeTheDealer. Now PlayAndDeal pushes it's program, for money, to everybody else. I fell for it, I know. I tried it in July. Don't bother spending your money on this site because you're just wasting your time. Secondly, CasinoMaster is PlayAndDeal for those who don't know it. He's posted elsewhere as CasinoMeister, again back in July, about PlayAndDeal which is why I fell for it. Unfortunately CasinoMaster a/k/a CasinoMeister is not CasinoMeister.com, who I thought he was. The webmaster should actually ban you, CasinoMaster, from posting, because you're spamming, nearly everyday, on this board! BIG SUGGESTION TO ALL, DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO ANYTHING CASINOMASTER POSTS, IT'S ALL BS AND IT'S ALL TO THE BENEFIT OF PLAYANDDEAL, OR 2 OTHER SITES THAT HE'S A PART OF.

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: September 2, 2002 05:28PM

Real credible and intelligent post, Brainiac. Too bad you can't back-up anything you say with facts.

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: September 2, 2002 05:41PM

To illustrate what a complete moron you are, CasinoMutter, my first post on this board was dated 8-12-02 at 21:16, not "back in July" like you falsely claim. Moreover, I NEVER posted anything about Play And Deal under "Casinomeister". Your BS has been exposed. Now get back to work. I'm sure there's plenty of customers waiting for fries with their order.

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: September 3, 2002 08:39PM

Hey, CasinoMoron, I'm still waiting for your reply. Your post was a pack of obvious lies that were easily exposed. You showed everybody what an idiot you are. Are you too embarrassed to perform an encore?

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: CEO (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: September 4, 2002 09:33AM

Andrija,

Two thousand a month for marketing will not get you you anywhere. I would look for investors rather then wasting your money money. It also takes months to get stickiness

Good luck

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Andrija (---.verat.net)
Date: September 4, 2002 10:22AM

Thanx CEO, this is the first answer i got on this board that i can use.

All the best.

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: CEO (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: September 4, 2002 10:27AM

Anytime it seems most people use this board for there personal fights, And it is defeating the purpose for owners, to speak to one another. Get suggestions and ideas

Best of luck

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Tommy D (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: September 4, 2002 11:54AM

Real words of wisdom CEO. Your keen business acumen is astounding. No wonder you're a CEO.

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Tommy D (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: September 4, 2002 12:16PM

Andrija, What are you actually thanking this genius for? I fail to see any sort of sage wisdom in his advise. He basically insults you and tells you not to even bother promoting your casino, and you're grateful for those pearls of wisdom? That's like getting slapped in the face and then saying "Thank you sir, may I have another". Unbelievable. You must be some sort of masochist.

Re: first 3 months of marketing??
Posted by: Op (---.sympatico.ca)
Date: September 10, 2002 08:25PM

Andrija,

I would be very interested in finding out how effective your site was, if it was indeed just an affiliate, and if the $2K/month of marketing was sufficient and effective.



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