Message for Casino owners ONLY.
Posted by: David Moor (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: August 17, 2002 04:09PM

Greetings,

You have something that is very valuable ... something that can bring you a lot more money than you may realize.

That "something" is your current base of casino players.

Suppose you could get current players to gamble more often? And What if you could turn a high percentage of those who now play just for fun into those who play for money?

We can do that for you!

We operate the most successful, most player-friendly casinos on the Internet. We offer a revolutionary system of bonuses and cash gifts to players. They get a bonus not only when they sign up, but every time they make a deposit. They get cash gifts when they play -- $25 for every 100 hands of poker, $5 for each 10 keno hands. They get more cash gifts when they make a deposit two days in a row -- one dayís full deposit is credited right back to their casino account!

There are no downloads needed. It's fast & easy. Just click & play. Players receive their payouts in an hour, so they keep coming back to play! They stay & play longer. And lots of people who only played for "fun" in the past start gambling with real money, thanks to all the bonuses and other incentives!

Since casino players are always looking for new excitement, youíll find itís easy to convince them to try a new casino. And when they do, EVERYBODY WINS!

Here's how it works:
Your casino is created and activated for just $499. It comes equipped with the latest state-of-the-art back office systems and marketing tools. Everything you need to measure & track results and to run a profitable casino is included. But you don't have to spend hours managing your casino. We handle all the day-to-day operations. And at the end of every day, you get 70% of all net-gaming casino revenues! You get paid EVERY day!

You know the odds are always with the house. Now, you can really put the odds in your favor. And, best of all, YOU CANNOT LOSE ANY OF YOUR OWN MONEY! We are responsible for paying players.

So if you're ready to start making REAL MONEY, you have to check out this offer.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW YOU CAN MAKE LOT MORE MONEY, GO TO

[www.MyCasino-Builder.Com]

TO CHECK OUT ONE OF OUR CASINOS, GO TO [vip.1cnp.com].

I urge you not to let this opportunity pass you by! There's real money to be made here.

Sincerely,

David Moor
[www.MyCasino-Builder.Com]
[www.my1CNP.@]

Re: Message for Casino owners ONLY.
Posted by: OPA Mary (206.80.104.---)
Date: August 17, 2002 07:06PM

One Click n Play *BLOWS*

They don't pay players. They post players' email addresses on their site for publicity purposes without player permission. They spam sites. And David Moore uses a Yahoo account for his email.

Re: Message for Casino owners ONLY.
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 17, 2002 07:09PM

$499?!?!?! Are you kidding me? It's not even worth $4.99! 1CNP casinos have a terrible reputation within the online gaming industry. Why don't you just say the payout is 100%? After all, in reality the payout is 0%. The link above to the sample casino leads to a dead page, which I must say is more attractive than the sample casino on your Web site.

domain: mycasino-builder.com
status: production
origin-c: david_moor@yahoo.com#1
organization: Universal Equity Holding Inc
owner: David Moor
email: david_moor@yahoo.com#1
address: 1201 Market Street, Suite 1600
city: Wilmington
state: DE
postal-code: 19899
country: US
admin-c: david_moor@yahoo.com#1
tech-c: david_moor@yahoo.com#1
billing-c: david_moor@yahoo.com#1
nserver: ns1.bchosting.net
nserver: ns2.bchosting.net
registrar: JORE-1
created: 2001-06-16 15:19:13 UTC JORE-1
expires: 2003-06-16 09:19:04 UTC
source: joker.@#$%&

Re: Message for Casino owners ONLY.
Posted by: 1CNP_SUCKS (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 17, 2002 07:11PM

David Moor,

I can't believe you have the "nerve" to post about
your crappy, dishonest, rigged "faux casino".

You, and the "shills" you employ, have been "banned"
from most forums, your 1CNP "fraud" has been put
on the "Blacklisted" "Not Recommended" and "Rogue"
list at all well known portals and gambling sites.

Any one that would like to read more about this
rip off, dishonest "scam" feel free to view the thread
listed below:

[www.winneronline.com]

THIS IS A SCAM!! STAY AWAY!!

To Owner of StartCasino [Re: Message for Casino owners ONLY.]
Posted by: Jeff (---.vf.shawcable.net)
Date: August 18, 2002 01:27PM

Mr. Lesnik,

Look on the responses on David posting. Your message board is going to be useless. It should be moderated!

I'm personally work with MyCasino-Builder from March, 2002. They are responsible for all payments to players and revenues. I get my Casino revenues the same day I ask them (sometime I ask to pay me every day, some time once a week). Players in my Casino get paid in one hour to their PayPal accounts. No kidding!

I have access to Casino back office and I get up-to-second updated information about my Casino. It's increadible!! They provide great service.

I know they offer also the private-label verison of MyCasino-Builder. Any feedbacks on it are appreciated.

-- Jeff

From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: Webmaster (151.202.168.---)
Date: August 18, 2002 02:48PM

Let me get this straight Jeff.

You came on my board a few months back spamming. You personally created alot of mistrust for your own product, espescially on this site as well as WinnerOnline and CasinoAffiliatePrograms.

Now you get slammed on this board (not by me mind you, but others) and you as well as Tuval ask that the messages be removed?

Here's my rule:

-If someone makes an accusation, it should be honest and backed up with proof.

-If someone makes an accusation and the owner doesn't answer, then most will tend to believe the accusation.

-Any industry provider posts on this site and has no contact information (like a telephone number and and address), then they will guarantee that no one will believe them.

Like I said to Tuval on the Phone, people who read this board are $ MILLIONAIRES. These are not stupid people. They want a REAL NAME, a REAL PHONE NUMBER and a REAL ADDRESS to verify the operation is not "fly by night."

Lastly, Tuval had recently informed me that StartCasino.com isn't in your company's marketing strategy. So, it shouldn't matter to you what others post.


Webmaster

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: Jeff (---.netcom.ca)
Date: August 18, 2002 07:34PM

Mr. Lesnik,

I've never posted on your board in the past. You just confuse me with your statements.

I don't know who your readers are; just suggested you to moderate your forum, othewise it will be useless, even millionares visit your site.

I personally have income of $5M/annualy but never considered you pay $300K for Casino software. My comany works with MyCasino-Builder, on each invested dollar I get 12. Ask Shay from @!#$ about such numbrers, if he will agree to answer you.

It looks like you miss something very important.
Never mind.

-- Jeff

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: 1CNP_SUCKS (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 18, 2002 10:53PM

1CNP (my casino builders) is "well known" for having
a "happy shill" respond to threads like this.

David Moor initiates them, a 1CNP "Shill" starts to
post, defending them.

1CNP figures any "free" publicity is worthwhile.

And that's the only kind they get, as no one with an
IQ higher than room temperature, would have anything
to do with this group of "Crud", the equivalent of
"Human Slugs".

1CNP is a SCAM. Never have anything to do with them!!

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: hakrjak (---.scs.agilent.com)
Date: August 20, 2002 05:32PM

I'm new to the industry, and I'm currently shopping around for a company that will give me a low cost "startup" with a high payout % down the road.

$499 and 70% sounds like the best deal I've found so far. Can someone please explain what all the fuss is about? Are there other more reputeable companies out there that someone could e-mail me with that can pay out this kind of % and start me up for a price so low?

I've been working with some very nice and reputable folks, but they want $25,000 to start me up, and $5000 a month in marketing costs which I just can't afford.

Thanks in advance!

hakrjak@yahoo.@#$%&

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: David Moor (---.vf.shawcable.net)
Date: August 20, 2002 06:01PM

No one offers you a deal like MyCasino-Builder.Com does. You can't find better deal.

Others can't compete with us, that's why they post in "gambling forums" (it makes me laugh!)
"negative" false messages about MyCasino-Builder.Com . It's very simpel: they can't compete with us.

To get started immediately, register your new Casino at [www.mycasino-builder.com] web site, pay $499 and get ready-to-operate Casino in less that 10 minutes (BTW, 30-day money back guarantee!).

To get immediate action, start by promoting your casino with pay-per-click search engines. The idea of pay-per-click search engines is that you pay only for those people who actually click on your ad and visit your casino. The backroom software thatís included with your casino enables you to identify which pay-per-click charges are legitimate and which may be fraudulent.

Itís important not to spend your entire ad budget in one big burst. Results only come when your ads are running. For example, if you have $2000 to spend, run five flights of $400 ads, instead of one campaign for $2000. We have also found that pay-per-click ads are much less effective on weekends. So save your pay-per-click ads for weekdays, and youíll save some money.

Sample Copy for Pay-Per-Click Engines
∑ Play now, get paid now. One-hour payouts at One Click & Play Casino. Works with all Internet-access devices.

∑ Visit the casino where itís easy to play and easy to win. No plug-ins, no downloads. Just click & play and get paid in an hour at One Click & Play Casino. Works with all Internet-access devices.

∑ Incredible BONUSES at One Click & Play Casino. Unconditional $101 + 30% bonus each time you deposit. For example, a $35 deposit gets you $146 of playing power. $25 cash bonus for every 100 hands of poker. And more Ö Works with all Internet-access devices.

∑ One Click & Play Casino Revolutionary Rewards System! We give you $101 + 30% of your deposit EVERY TIME you make a deposit. PLUS get $200 cash for every 10 deposits! Deposit 2 days in a row and get back your full first dayís deposit!

∑ Automatic, unconditional payouts in 1 hour or less at One Click & Play Casino. PLUS a Revolutionary Rewards System with bonuses and cash gifts! Works with all Internet-access devices.


I wish you big success.

David

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 20, 2002 08:01PM

The reason there are so many negative postings is that many people have been burned by this bogus offer. You'll find complaints against them on the message boards at WinnersOnline.com, CasinoAffiliatePrograms.com, and on the Smashcom thread further down on this board. The only positive remarks are from shills whose posts are rife with grammatical errors and misspellings. The company backing this venture are pornography purveyors for the most part. Their reputation in the online gaming industry is terrible. Just the fact that they use these message boards to spam their product speaks volumes. No legitimate operation engages in such irreputable marketing practices. Sure 70% sounds attractive, but 70% of nothing is still nothing. Steer clear of these shysters and invest your $499 somewhere else. Besides, have you seen the casino model you get for $499? Do you really think a serious player would play at such an unprofessional site?

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: David Moor (---.vf.shawcable.net)
Date: August 20, 2002 08:22PM

This is a good example on what MyCasino-Builder.Com competitors do. They lie, lie anywhere, at any cost. They know better that anyone else, that thay are already "out of business". They can't compete with us.

$499 one time Casino activation fee (with 30 day money back guarantee) for own Casino ready-to-operation in less than 10 minutes and 70% of Casino revenues paid EVERY DAY -- kill them.

You decide what is BETTER for you!

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 20, 2002 09:28PM

Go back to peddling your sleazy pornography and leave unsuspecting newcomers who don't know any better alone. Your competitors seem to be thriving to the point that they can actually afford to engage in legitimate marketing practices, whereas you have to resort to spamming message boards to peddle your garbage. It's obvious by your bad grammar and frequent misspellings that you don't even have a rudimentary grasp of the English language. It won't be long before you are "out of business". It's illegitimate shysters like you that give the industry a bad name. By the way, if your business is thriving so well, why is Smashcom.com now set-up to peddle pornography instead of your casino "opportunity"? Moreover, how come so many people claim you've cheated them out of money if you're so honest and legitimate? Certainly not all of them are jealous competitors as you claim.

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: David Moor (---.vf.shawcable.net)
Date: August 20, 2002 09:53PM

Your post is 100% proof that you're already "out of business" . No more deposits? No more new players ? What do you offer them: sound effects that 90% of players turn "off" immediately, or any other "realistic environment"?

Those who don't know what is going on, I'll inform:

EVERY DAY those who used Casino "turn-key software solution" of other vendors BUY NEW Casinos from MyCasino-Builder.Com. They do it EVERY SINGLE DAY ! . It costs only $499.

Thanks to MyCasino-Builder.Com they return now money they wasted with their previous "solution".

How? Very simpe:

1. Mycasino-Builder.Com Casinos help to turn a high percentage of those who play just for fun into those who play for money!

2. We offer a revolutionary system of bonuses and cash gifts to players. Players get a bonus not only when they sign up, but every time they make a deposit. They get cash gifts when they play -- $25 for every 100 hands of poker, $5 for each 10 keno hands. They get more cash gifts when they make a deposit two days in a row -- one dayís full deposit is credited right back to their casino account!

3. Players receive their payouts in an hour, so they keep coming back to play! They stay & play longer. And lots of people who only played for "fun" in the past start gambling with real money, thanks to all the bonuses and other incentives!

BTW, smashcom.net is the owner of adult private version of MyCasino-Builder.@#$%&

Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 20, 2002 11:34PM

I mentioned Smashcom.COM not Smashcom.NET, but it's another one of your garbage sites. Proof that the .com and .net versions are one and the same can be found by checking the WHOIS registry. You've been caught in yet another lie. How come you never address the accusations leveled at you but you simply spout the same repetitive spam? You make yourself look more ridiculous (if that's possible) everytime you try to defend your worthless product. It's a lot easier to con some innocent teenage girl into posing naked than it is to fool someone with half a brain who's looking for a legitimate business opportunity, isn't it?

Registrant:
SMASHCOM
12153 Ventura Blvd Suite 100
Studio City, CA 91604
US
818-753-9077

Domain Name: SMASHCOM.NET

Adminstrative Contact:
SMASHCOM, SMASHCOM pitboss@smashcom.com
12153 Ventura Blvd Suite 100
Studio City, CA 91604
US
818-753-9077

Technical Contact:
SMASHCOM, SMASHCOM pitboss@smashcom.com
12153 Ventura Blvd Suite 100
Studio City, CA 91604
US
818-753-9077



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Re: From the Owner of StartCasino
Posted by: 1CNP BLOWS (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 21, 2002 04:04AM

This "Moron", David Moor...AKA Mike_99
and other fictitious names, is well known for
this type of "advertising". He gets a thread
going like this one, and "baits" unsuspecting
people into the ridiculous banter he continues
to spew post after post, never addressing any
of the questions asked of him, and lying like a
rug if he does attempt an answer.

1CNP, and anything associated with it, is
a SCAM. Plain and simple.

STAY AWAY!! FAR AWAY!!

1CNP people are Human Vermin.

David, go slink back into the sewer you
crawled out of.



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