Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Amy Bryant (---.city.tvnet.hu)
Date: August 26, 2002 06:54AM

Dear Board readers,

To stop rumours, gossip and speculation we'd like to give an update on
some of the issues that came up concerning Windows Casino on this board.

1) DOWNTIME LAST WEEK
2) PLAY AND DEAL CONNECTION


1) DOWNTIME LAST WEEK

On August 16th we discovered that Internic.net caused a problem with our
domain name servers. To understand this problem one must understand the
DNS system. Without getting too technical here's a bit of background on
how it works.

In an Internet address ­ such as windowscasino.com ­ the .com part is
known as a Top Level
Domain, or TLD. So-called "TLD registry" organizations house online
databases that
contain information about the domain names in that TLD. The .com registry
database,
for example, contains the Internet whereabouts ­ or IP address ­ of
windowscasino.com So in
trying to find the Internet address of windowscasino.com your computer
must first find the .com registry database. How is this done?

At the heart of the DNS are 13 special computers, called root servers.
They are
coordinated by ICANN and are distributed around the world. All 13 contain
the same
vital information ­ this is to spread the workload and back each other
up.

Internic.net (a non-profit organization part of the US Department Of
Commerce) operates some of these DNS server.

As a result of an Internic.net error the WindowsCasino.com domain name
was not visible from some parts of the world. We had new player signups
during this entire period, however not as many as normally.

THE GOOD NEWS
-------------
* The webserver was functioning and was accessible through other DNS root
servers.
* The game servers were never effected by the DNS problem
* Private label casino owners never had a second of downtime
* Existing players could wager and make new deposits.
* The stats servers were not effected
* Our affiliates had new signups and deposits

The DNS problem was elevated to critical status through Network
Solutions, our domain name registrar. They contacted Internic's engineers
and the problem got fixed on the 21st. We were told that they had never
experienced such an issue before. We're currently evaluating our legal
options and consulting with attorneys regarding bizarre incident, which
was completely beyond our control.

We apologize about this error to all of our affiliates who send traffic
to Windows Casino.com directly.

2) PLAY AND DEAL CONNECTION

It has never been a secret that parent company of Windows Casino (ADLM
Gaming) is a minority shareholder in PlayAndDeal.com Play and Deal is not
managed and operated by Windows Casino's management. Play And Deal shares
technical resources with Windows Casino. Play And Deal's name server is
the same equipment as Windows Casino's.

Adam Jacobs is the Product Manager for Play And Deal and would be more than happy to answer specific questions in regard to the Software’s function, the delivery of the Private Label packages and the pricing structure. He can be contacted directly at aj@playanddeal.com.

Windows Casino has been in business since 2000 and we've been paying our
affiliates and private label customers on time ever since. Our affiliate
program is stronger than ever and we're setting new records every month.
We were truly disturbed by this month's DNS problems and will take the
appropriate steps to get compensations for our losses. If we get
compensated we will share the revenue with our affiliates on a pro-rated
basis.

If you have any questions about Windows Casino or any of our programs,
please do not hesitate to contact me via email or AOL Instant messenger.

Amy Bryant
Sales, Marketing and Media Manager
amy@windowscasino.com
AIM:windowsSMM

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Comment (---.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)
Date: August 26, 2002 02:53PM

"Windows Casino has been in business since 2000 and we've been paying our affiliates and private label customers on time ever since."

Which is why any of us can go to www.WinnerOnline.com and click "message boards" and "search" for windows casino, or windowscasino, and see complaint after complaint of your financial practices since you opened.

Play and Deal? Part of Windows Casino? No, it really isn't. Play and Deal is an affiliate of www.BeTheDealer.com

Internic problems? That sounded desparate and ridiculous. I use the same place in the DNS lineup, and had zero problems. It was your own system being hacked and you know it. Truth is king on this board Amy. Builds credibility.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Andrija (---.verat.net)
Date: August 26, 2002 05:11PM

Hi,

I am affiliate of windows casino for 5-6 months now and i have recived my checks regulary.

I am allsow now starting a bussiness with play and deal and thay seem OK too.


Best Regards.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 27, 2002 12:00AM

Comment, How ironic that you stress "credibility" when your post shows you possess absolutely none. You totally misrepresent the postings at Winner Online. By the way, the message boards there appear to be the sounding board for every miscreant and moron in the industry. The posters for the most part there are either pompous, self-congratulating blowhards or people who lack basic spelling and grammatical skills. I'd take anything posted there with a grain of salt. More to the point, there is no credible evidence of Windows Casino cheating any players or webmasters.

Go grind your ax somewhere else. Amy came onto this board with a full and detailed explanation of what happened. Don't act like you're such an expert on the topic that you know what happened and she's lying.

Moreover, how do you know what Play And Deal's relationships are, anyway? Her post appears to be a lot more credible than yours. Truth is indeed "king on this board" like you claim, but it doesn't appear that you're the one wearing the crown.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: WOL lies (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: August 27, 2002 12:31AM

<i>Which is why any of us can go to www.WinnerOnline.com and click \"message boards\" and \"search\" for windows casino, or windowscasino, and see complaint after complaint of your financial practices since you opened</i>

Don\'t make me laugh! WinnerOnline (WOL) is group of 7-8 guys that post their messages under different names! It was proven two months ago by mike_99 which posted IP addresses of these guys. You can find it on WOL board (if owner of this board did not remove them)

WOL messages -- 100% untrusted! All complaints posted there -- 100% lie.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Truth Master (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 27, 2002 04:17AM

Posted by "CasinoMaster" referring to the WOL board...

"I'd take anything posted there with a grain of salt. More to the point, there is no credible evidence of Windows Casino cheating any players or webmasters."


You would be making a serious error in judgment if you
"take anything posted there with a grain of salt".

A lot of truth there, mixed in with the " pompous, self-congratulating blowhards or people who lack basic spelling and grammatical skills."

As for Your statement of "there is no credible evidence of Windows Casino cheating any players", wrong again, Slick.

Do a "search" at www.winneronline.com or
www.casinomeister.com or the OPA site at
www.casinogazette.com. ALL of these respected
sites have "Blacklisted" Windows, or list numerous
complaints about them.

And to "WOL Lies"... Another 1CNP "Shill". (most likely Mike_99
or David Moor) Geeze, You 1CNP slugs really don't get it,
do you? If you had half a brain, you would be dangerous.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 27, 2002 05:06AM

Sorry, Slick, your BS still stinks no matter how eloquently you try to present it. Show me some CREDIBLE evidence that Windows Casino has cheated its webmasters and/or players. By credible, I don't mean posts that are nearly two years old that have no merit to begin with. Get your facts straight, Slick. Casinomeister has NOT "blacklisted" Windows Casino, nor even accused them of cheating any players and/or webmasters. The fact that you blatantly lie like this destroys any shred of credibility you hope to present.

Moreover, the OPA is an absolute joke. They're a casino portal, pure and simple. Nothing more. They overinflate their importance and try to act like they're a cop policing an unregulated industry. They are self-congratulatory blowhards who don't even keep up-to-date on the industry. OPA Mary doesn't even know who powers a number of casino sites. I can cite specific examples of her ineptitude if you want. I guess it's hard to do research when you're too busy slapping yourself on the back.

The Internet Gaming Commission (InternetCommission.com) is the only unbiased, third-party watchdog site in the industry with any real credibility. They don't allow any advertising on their site and they have a list of "Caution Urged" and "Extreme Caution Urged" casino sites and Windows Casino has never appeared on either list. If they were as corrupt as you try to claim, certainly they would have been called on it by the IGC.

Finally, maybe there is a credible post or two at Winner Online, but it's not worth the effort to swim through their sewer of a message board to find those rare nuggets.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: IGC_Is_Not_Trusted (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: August 27, 2002 04:42PM

"The Internet Gaming Commission (InternetCommission.com) is the only unbiased, third-party watchdog site in the industry with any real credibility"

Are you kidding !?

In their "Licensed & Accredited Gaming Sites" two 100% crooked Casinos -- casinobar and casinoonair appear!

IGC is watchdog site in the industry???

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Truth Master (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 27, 2002 06:02PM

CasinoMaster,

From your last post, "Casinomeister has NOT "blacklisted" Windows Casino"

He has them listed as "Not Recommended".
Surely the status most casinos desire.


Your next pearl of wisdom: "The Internet Gaming Commission (InternetCommission.com) is the only unbiased, third-party watchdog site in the industry with any real credibility"

A decent organization, but far from "the only" one with
any credibility. As reported in the post by I_C_G is not trusted,
they have some "questionable" casinos listed, too.

As for the OPA being "A Joke", that's your opinion.
Many others disagree with that opinion.

And pertaining to "OPA Mary", She has "forgotten" more
about on line gaming, than you'll ever have knowledge of.

Less than 2 weeks ago, you didn't even know that
the Casinomeister.com site even existed. (when you
attempted to post here using his name)

I find your knowledge of this industry to be somewhat
"Underwhelming", for the most part.

I'm not trying to start a battle with you, I just find it
amusing when someone thinks they have all the answers,
when they obviously don't.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 27, 2002 09:28PM

"I just find it amusing when someone thinks they have all the answers, when they obviously don't."

You must be laughing at yourself then, Slick. Indeed the OPA is a major joke because they are just a casino portal trying to make themselves out to be something much bigger. If they were as prestigious as they try to claim, surely some of the major casinos they endorse would carry those ridiculous "Endorsed by the OPA" banners. Evidently, they don't think much of the OPA either.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Truth Master (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 28, 2002 02:48AM

CasinoMaster,

Just out of curiosity, can you post which casino's you recommend? And why? Also, do you have a website?

Where do you feel is a good place to get information,
since you feel WOL is "garbage filled", the OPA site is
a "Joke", and you're not real familiar with the CasinoMeister
website, since you only found out about it two weeks ago.

No sarcasm in this. I would appreciate the same from you,
if you choose to respond.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 28, 2002 04:24AM

Hey Slick, since my opinion is of so little value to you, what difference does it make? Why do you need to know my identity? If I provided that to someone as obnoxious as you, I'm sure my e-mail box would be overflowing with porno spam or something to that effect. You and the OPA know everything, and anybody who disagrees with you knows nothing, right? Put your vast and overwhelming industry knowledge to use if you're so brilliant. I have no desire to communicate any further with you, nor do I wish to make the message board here a running exchange of insults that occurs so often at Winner Online. Now go put on your phony police badge and uniform and go police the industry. I'm sure there's plenty of players who think they got screwed out of a $10 bonus who are in need of your invaluable assistance.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Truth Master (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 28, 2002 04:57AM

CasinoMaster,

In my previous post to you, I simply asked you a few
questions relevant to this thread. How did you respond
to my query? With a classless, nasty, ridiculous reply.

You're correct, though, after reading that no class
response, complete with inane babbling about "porno spam",
Your opinion on "anything" would be worthless.

A pleasant, articulate person (?) such as you've proven
yourself to be, will go quite far in the online gaming industry.

You will fit right in, with the rest of the rabble and drek,
that seems to be so prevalent at this time.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 28, 2002 06:06AM

Did somebody say something? No, I guess not. Must have been an insect or something.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: Casinomaster (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 28, 2002 10:45PM

Truth Master, If your inquiry was indeed genuine, then perhaps my response was a bit out of line. I currently operate private label casinos powered by Grand Virtual, Windows Casino, Play And Deal, and the Gambling Federation. I created all of my Web sites myself and I'm in the process of building a comprehensive casino portal. I research a variety of sources to obtain information on the companies I choose to do business with. I also try to speak directly with a sales rep at each company before proceeding. I've been in business since March 2000 and my research to this point has been from a webmaster/casino owner perspective. As I build the portal site, my research has been expanded to include player-related sites. I don't have all the answers and never claimed to. I do have some degree of knowledge, though, as my Web sites are my sole source of income and I have achieved a certain degree of success with them. If I feel I can offer some advice or share my experiences, sometimes I'm inclined to do just that. We all have different opinions, but there's no need for that to create any ill will.

Re: Setting the Record Straight and Clearing Any Confusion
Posted by: OPA Mary (206.80.104.---)
Date: September 2, 2002 09:42PM

I would very much appreciate any information you have about who really owns what.

I'm always open to updating my information.



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