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Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: Drunk Gambler (85.195.123.---) Date: November 26, 2006 03:30PM
Mediacasino,
No need to be shy. Can you name names/URLs for:
- casino
- sportsbook
- poker
?
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: Mediacasino.com (---.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) Date: November 26, 2006 10:35PM
Yes, sure I can. We have a form on our web site for all business inquiries. Please indicate the products you are interested in and your approximate budget for the development. I will show you samples that are most close to your needs, maybe we have done something similar. If you have serious interest in our services we will definitely have a deal.
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: JerryG (124.106.190.---) Date: November 27, 2006 02:51AM
Drunk Guy...
After looking at their web site, I see a link to fatbosscasino.com. I think that's what you're looking for.
Mediacasino...
My personal suggestion would be to do more work on the creatives. Someone looking to operate an online casino will want something that appears to be on par with Playtech, Micro, etc, because that's what the players will be looking for.
The only game I played was blackjack. On that one, I would say to speed up those animations a bit. That game has a very low house edge to begin with, so in order to make money from it you want the hands per hour to be as fast as the player is willing to click the button. Those cards should be flying by, not floating across the table.
Just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
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Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: Drunk Gambler (85.195.123.---) Date: November 27, 2006 03:16AM
Fatbosscasino,com is owned/operated/demo by mediacasino - so doesn't count.
Just can't help thinking after looking at fatbosscasino, the rhetorical qn:
How difficult is it to make a produc that on the surface looks and feels like the Playtech/MicrG/RTG etc
After all, to the player, appearance and feel are over 50% of the battle.
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: pb1000 (83.70.207.---) Date: November 28, 2006 03:03PM
JerryG
"If a source code is found for sale on an open market, that is because of
faulty security procedures with the management of the finished product, not because of the structure of the programming. "
What security procedures? How do you stop programmers stealing source code?
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: yorktown (Moderator) Date: November 28, 2006 09:56PM
You can encrypt the source code. But then, you wouldn't be buying 'source code.' You would be buying a code you couldn't read, and thus, not play with to tweak to your liking.
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Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: Mediacasino.com (---.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) Date: December 3, 2006 09:51AM
Fatbosscasino is rather old development, it is just an easy demo and it is not functional. Besides, original graphical technique was implemented when creating it, it is artwork and not rendered graphics, playing cards were renovated from the first british playing cards of the 15th century, etc. That is why it visually differs from what you used to see. We don't have turnkey packages, all our works are custom, and our clients will not feel happy if I show their ideas on this forum. Clients who are serious about the development, never ask for a portfolio of works, they just don't care. They have their own ideas in mind, and what they ask first is our APPROACH, how we are going to develop their particular project, we discuss details, technical issues, marketing issues, etc. This is how we provide the evidence that we are capable of doing the work, and only then we may show some similar system if we have already developed it.
It is possible to build software of any quality and complexity, even like Microgaming or Playtech, but the budget for such development would be millions of dollars.
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: Drunk Gambler (85.195.123.---) Date: December 3, 2006 10:30AM
Who are you kidding?
How difficult is it to write a casino program?
It's not like it's Half Life 2 we're talking about here.
Very standard, same old rules-based games.
Look at Microsoft Casino...shouldn't be too difficult to replicate something similar.
Any half decent developer would have the basic core modules/gaming engine and would just tweak the code for fancy graphics etc.
You make "custom" sound as if you need to re-invent the wheel each time.
And any reputable developer WOULD have a portfolio of clients and previous work.
Now that you say that FatbossCasino is an old version...what's the point, why bother even having a link to this site then?
Just makes you look bad.
Or maybe you're just the go-between and you just contract out to Indian developers who do the real work and naturally won't let you keep the source code.
You make me laugh.
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: Mediacasino.com (---.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) Date: December 3, 2006 11:12AM
You are asking rather strange questions, we do business as we do it, and we have portfolio of works, I just don't show it up everywhere. Fatboss is the only thing that we have full rights at, when we develop something custom we transfer the rights to the business owner. So we have only listed Fatboss at our site... If we ever build some turnkey solution, we will update our site with it.
The price I mentioned is our price and I know exactly what would be included in it. It will be very original and unique development and will be done from scratch. Those engines that you mentioned also have some price, we don't give out them like halloween candy. This is called business, but if you know someone who would build Microgaming for $100k, well... what can I say... good luck and don't drink too much...
Re: WE SELL NEW Creative Technology Zen Vision 30 GB Digital Media Player.........$250USD
Posted by: JerryG (124.106.187.---) Date: December 4, 2006 06:28AM
I hate you Alfred
:)
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Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: herodis gus valakas (---.37.213.52.adsl.snet.net) Date: December 28, 2006 09:24PM
I am interested in opoening an online casino
what liquid capital whould i need before having to launnch advertising
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: Mediacasino.com (---.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) Date: January 2, 2007 08:05AM
This depends on many aspects: your marketing experience, your strategic goals, your business plan, your software, your creative ideas, etc. For example, microgaming advises to have 1 million dollars for initial advertising. My estimation based on some gaming practices is that you can start with $150k ad budget. Of course, this is not the bottom rock, but you will need some competing advantage to work for you if your budget is lower. Generally, outsourced software requires higher marketing budget, but this will also depend on the games you have in the package.
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: topapito (---.88-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) Date: April 13, 2007 11:02AM
One way to stop programmers from getting your code is to split the work among groups. CVS is great for doing that and keeping the code fractionalized and the programmers from being able to sneak out the whole thing in one piece.
They can get pieces of it, but never the whole thing. Then you also have to stay involved, know what's going on and be participative or have someone you trust to do this.
But there are certainly ways of writing source code without your programmers stealing it from you.
Re: Why are there so many sale of source codes?
Posted by: Spydera (---.static.youtele.com) Date: May 21, 2007 06:29AM
Happened to stumble upon this discussion while I was looking around on his site.
I must say that Mediacasino are providers of software therefore berating others suits them fine. We have been developing casino software for 3 years now and have 5 client sites opreational and fully supported. We not only provide software development but also customization of our proven engine, help in setting up offshore companies, registering with payment systems and 24x7 tech support. In brief, a turnkey operator solution, no strings attached.
I don't understand the blanket assumption and hatred towards India based sftware development companies! Is it incomprehensible that companies such as ours actually have retined the services of experts form industry in Europe and USA? Thats not to say that bad exeriences dont exist. It would also be possible that many small developers are unable to fulfil customer requirements at all. However, to say that ALL Indian companies providing poker and casino software dont know anything about poker, are wrong and I beg to differ.
Anyone interested in our software and solutions can email me at spydera at hotmail dot com
Regards
Spydera
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